From | Martin |
Subject | Canon 30D Raw Histograms |
Date | Mon, December 17, 2007 7:54 |
Hi! I've read your page "Creating Raw Histograms From Digital Camera Raw Files" and I have some (I think) interesting information to add: The "combing" is really a scaling result. You already found out the strong correlation between the combing and aperture size. Thanks for this research! I did analyze the histograms of my photos, and I discovered that all photos taken with the same ISO group and aperture have the same relative scaling factor applied, see my tables below. It was 100% consistent, not a single CR2 file was irregular! Canon 30D uses integer scaling before writing raw data into .CR2: Equation equivalent to: round( ((in-128)*scale/4096)+128 ) For ISO 3200, it is floor() instead of round(). This equation really gives all of the gaps/spikes at exactly the same histrogram positions, that's how I found it out. Sometimes scale/4096 could be simplified, like 8368/4096 = 523/256. ISO 200ff means ISO 200, 400, 800, 1600 ISO 125ff means ISO 125, 250, 500, 1000 ISO 160ff means ISO 160, 320, 640, 1250 Scale [4096]: aperture : f/2.8+ f/2.5 f/2.2 f/2.0 f/1.8 ISO 100 : 4096 4141 4184 4250 4348 // same as ISO 200ff ISO 200ff: 4096 4141 4184 4250 4348 ISO 125ff: 5311 5370 5426 5511 5639 ISO 160ff: 3158 3193 3226 3277 3352 ISO 3200 : 8192 8282 8368 8500 8696 Scale [%]: aperture : f/2.8+ f/2.5 f/2.2 f/2.0 f/1.8 ISO 100 : 100.00 101.10 102.15 103.76 106.15 ISO 200ff: 100.00 101.10 102.15 103.76 106.15 ISO 125ff: 129.66 131.10 132.47 134.55 137.67 ISO 160ff: 77.10 77.95 78.76 80.00 81.84 ISO 3200 : 200.00 202.20 204.30 207.52 212.30 Scale relative to f/2.8 [%]: // only depends on aperture! aperture : f/2.8+ f/2.5 f/2.2 f/2.0 f/1.8 ISO 100 : 100.00 101.10 102.15 103.76 106.15 ISO 200ff: 100.00 101.10 102.15 103.76 106.15 ISO 125ff: 100.00 101.11 102.17 103.77 106.18 ISO 160ff: 100.00 101.11 102.15 103.77 106.14 ISO 3200 : 100.00 101.10 102.15 103.76 106.15 Clip value: aperture : f/2.8+ f/2.5 f/2.2 f/2.0 f/1.8 ISO 100 : 3398 3434 3468 3521 3599 ISO 200ff: 4071 4095 4095 4095 4095 ISO 125ff: 4095 4095 4095 4095 4095 ISO 160ff: 3168 3202 3233 3283 3355 ISO 3200 : 4095 4095 4095 4095 4095 True clip value before scaling: aperture : f/2.8+ f/2.5 f/2.2 f/2.0 f/1.8 ISO 100 : 3398 3398 3398 3398 3398 // scaling reversable w/o clipping loss ISO 200ff: 4071 4052 4012 3951 3865 ISO 125ff: 3188 3154 3123 3077 3010 ISO 160ff: 4071 4071 4070 4071 4071 // same as ISO 200ff at f/2.8+ ISO 3200 : 2112 2090 2070 2040 1997 I tested with several lenses, some of them f/1.8 (Canon and Sigma), others f/2.8 or less. I do not have a lens with aperture wider than f/1.8, that's why I cannot give you the scaling factors for f/1.4 etc. Looking at your table, you identified only 22-90% of the photos with aperture f/1.8 or f/2.0 as being combed. I'm sorry to say, but the reason is that your program rawhistogram.exe just does not recognize every scaled CR2. I think, photos exposed very much to the left or right of the histogram, are not recognized as being combed, although they are scaled just like the others. For strongly overexposed photos it is actually impossible to analyze the histogram at all, but these should be sorted out rather than confusing the statistics. So, for the few of your photos, that have an aperture wider than f/2.8 and that are not recognized by rawhistogram.exe as being combed, please have a look at their histograms manually, and I think you will find them slightly combed or under-/overexposed. I think, digital sensors do register light rays the best when they arrive perpendicular to the sensor surface, partly because of the micro lens array in front of the pixels. At very wide apertures, light rays arrive more inclined w.r.t. the perpendicular, resulting in a slightly lower exposure. I think, the scaling is intended to fix this. And maybe it is really a nice feature, as the raw conversion software does not have to know the physical parameters of the sensor. And if the combing would be a problem for some application, one could losslessly reverse the scaling (although for ISOs other than ISO 100, the clipping would remain slightly earlier), only the downscaled ISOs 160ff are not reversable. From your Canon 5D examples, I learned, that the 5D scales f/1.8 to 102.2% and f/1.4 to 104.4%. I have no idea about your combings with "EF24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM", maybe there are special scalings for some lenses, or it is incorrectly recognized as being combed. Thanks for your work, Martin Note: Mark's last comment about the
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